Category: the Rant Board
okay, so i understand that people don't like me and what i say in publics (including the staff). but tonight, with 3 staff members logged in (alicia, scott and nehamiah), it just went too far (oh, the 3 cl's are back as cl's again in case you didn't know). first they make fun of my comments, yeh that's normal. but then, i try and send a public qn only to get a message saying: "your quicknote could not be sent because you have been blocked from sending public quicknotes." then for about 15 minutes the staff and other users made fun of me being blocked from sending public qn's. when i tried to ask the staff in a pqn why i'd been blocked, they'd just ignore me! Thankfully i'm unblocked now, but that is taking it too far in my opinion!!!!! and if you don't believe me and your a premium, have a look in qn history from about an hour before this post and you'll see the build up and the incident itself. Oh and i will be taking this matter up with chris n ASAP!
You're not the first person who has had this happen, and I'm sure they had their reasons. You are obnoxious.
BTW, glad to hear those three are back as CL's.
Blah blah blah!
Just tell them to go fuck off!
Here we go again...
Stop whining kid, no one likes a whiner.
I sure do hope this fucking thing gos down for good!
Lol!
Proffessional - couldn't you have posted the public quicknotes here so we could judge for ourselves?
I agree. For some one who doesn't have quicknotes turned on, I'd like to see this.
You know, that's a very good point. Could it be that the reason he doesn't post the publics here is because somewhere deep down he knows they probably would just disprove his claims?
Wow, i hate winers, you're not the first this has happened to, trust me.
Oh glad u guys are back as cl's..
Okay, I was there this morning when most of this was taking place. The actual muzzling must have happened just after I left but I can vouch that it happened. I'll post it here but firstly I have to say: While I don't think the professional should have been muzzled for stating his opinions and not actually hassling anyone in particular, I have to also say that I can understand why Scott did it - he has a way of seriously annoying people with the rubbish he spouts about how he would be as a community leader, conspiricy theories about the CL's and admins, etc. Check quicknote history between 17:00 and 19:00 on November 1, 2009 for the full picture.
KC8PNL:
I fixed the professional.
SingerOfSongs:
ah. Suddenly I feel that impending headache going away.
SisterDawn:
Lmao, Miah
skittles_freak:
you fixed him scott? what did you do, ban him? lmfao! and, yay for impending headaches going away
SingerOfSongs:
look at him in the user list, Carrie.
SisterDawn:
Way to fucking go, Scott! That's my man!
Yuriko:
what? i only see his name
Yuriko:
i see nothing next to his name
Yuriko:
though i can easily guess lol
SisterDawn:
You should see more, Lory. Like that he is muzzled.
FallenMoonlight:
lmao i love what u guys did to the professional
skittles_freak:
muzzled public? so, does that mean, he can't post public? nicely done!
harrypotter:
Wow, muzzled public. lol
Yuriko:
yep, i could guess. lol. but still can't see it
SingerOfSongs:
oh, hm. forgot that it must not show to the rest. he's... temporarily gone publically mute.
SisterDawn:
Yes, that's what that means.
SisterDawn:
What a lovely, politically correct way to say that, Miah. Lmao!
The_Blind_Guardian:
Excuse my supreme ignorance, but what in the world are you guys talking about?
Yuriko:
still nothing. ah well lol
SisterDawn:
And, Carrie seems to see it.
FallenMoonlight:
i see it too
SisterDawn:
A user named the Professional was frustrating us, being nasty about Scott and my being reinstated as CL's. So, Scott made it where he couldn't post public QN's for awhile.
harrypotter:
Hmmm, how long does that last for?
The_Blind_Guardian:
Sounds very frustrating, hense the aformentioned muzzling.
SingerOfSongs:
it lasts till we decide to take it off.
Yuriko:
so could last forever lol
harrypotter:
At this point, I'm kind of hoping it does last forever. lol
SingerOfSongs:
You know us cl's, so forgetful and all that.
Yuriko:
lol if you want
Yuriko:
i'll remind you if you need. lol
SisterDawn:
Hahaha, Miah. Indeed. So absent-minded.
maiden of the moonlight:
what would last forever?
happyman:
very interesting, put on the suggestions board, when people fight, the cl's should disable the public quick notes for the quareling parties, and have them fight it over in private.
harrypotter:
Sarah, that they would continue to disable pocket porkchop's ability to post public qn's.
maiden of the moonlight:
lol michael ah ok.
Then about five minutes later:
the professional:
test
FallenMoonlight:
oh god..
the professional:
finally, i'm back!
I think he just didn't think to post them. I don't know why adults get enjoyment from bullying children on here.
Wow, that’s some foul play. I must say I don’t like the Cl’s much, I’ve done some moderation and I’ve never palyed that dirty. I might be rigid, but I’d never do that to someone. I’d probably just send him a warning and be done with it, but I didn’t see what he said, so I don’t know if it was worth that. I do highly believe in people speaking there minds, though. Staff anywhere get picked on, I’ve gotten enough of it, and I never felt like disabiling anyone’s ability of speaking.
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SisterDawn:
A user named the Professional was frustrating us, being nasty about Scott and my being reinstated as CL's. So, Scott made it where he couldn't post public QN's for awhile.
I don't want to jump to conclusions not knowing what, specifically, the Professional wrote to "Frustrate" the community leaders.
But If *all* the professional did was frustrate the leaders with words [so long as he didn't violate any tos,] and the leaders did restrict his public QN posts, I would reluctantly but firmly have to agree with the title of the topic and the opinions of the original poster.
The professional might be one of the most frustrating and rediculus characters on the site, but I'm starting to think he's not the only one.
Someone with access to the QN history needs to seriously look into this.
Brice
what a bunch of childish fools you three cl's are!!!!! While the professional can be a bit of a nucense, this, is no reason to block him from the ability to quick note publically. The professional is thirteen, what is your excuse?
christ. i'd have done that a long time ago if i was a cl. good going scott. maybe now he'll think before posting all his whining bullshit to qn's. i'm sure the rest of us are as tired of it as the cl's were. don't blame them one bit.
pocket penis, you don't want it to happen again, stop your bitchin' and whining and continually trying to cause trouble for other users. just some advice.
Right, let's make one thing clear: the zone promotes freedom of speech, correct? yes, the CL's may not have agreed with some of the stuff I said yesterday, but I was simply stating my opinion; they didn't have to agree with it. So blocking me from sending public qn's just because they didn't agree with what I said is taking it a bit too far! We are all entitled to our opinions. If I did violate the TOS, then no-one told me. Feel free to send me a pm with the content that violated the TOS along with exact quotes from the TOS and i'll believe you.
Oh and I can't copy and paste the qn's across because the braillenote has various problems with pasting in to multi-line edit fields. So don't blame me, blame HumanWare!
I said in my previous post that I didn't think the muzzling was necessary... I still think that but I'll see if I can make a case for Scott. Seeing as how it only lasted for fifteen minutes or so, nobody can say that it was due to any vialation of the terms of service. If any terms had been breached then it would have been a banning rather than a muzzling. Based on that and that alone, and what I know of Scott's character, I'd say the whole thing was probably a joke. And professional, since there's no lasting damage done, you have really nothing to complain about, so just get over it. Again, like I said, I don't think the muzzling was necessary, but it doesn't need to be taken seriously.
Okay, so it only lasted for 15 minutes, but that's not the point. Scott used his power as CL inappropriately and blocked me just because he didn't agree with me. And what's to stop him or the other CL's doing it again? Alicia and Nehamiah were there as well and they thought it was funny so they might do it again. I suppose this opens up the whole favourites debate thing again. When i've seen arguments in publics before with CL's logged in, they've never blocked the people from sending public qn's. And although i'm not a big fan of it, there is always the ignore feature.
okay, i agree that perhaps Scott blocking pocket toothpick by not having him sending qn was not the best move, but i'm sure most of us who have the normal IQ of 90 to 110 will agree that we have enough from this zoner. if everyone have access to the qn history from last evening before 1700, everything was fine and peace before this twot came in to play. i must say, you as a twot as you are, making your own bed to sleep in. if you remain to be like how you react back in few weeks ago, where you're a normal 14 year old, instead of backing to where you were 14day old, this may not happen as the way it is.
yes, perhaps Scott and other cls may have took this a bit too far, but i must admit that if i'm one of them, i would have disable this professional toothpick myself way back, instead of letting him wipping and wetting his pants all over zone.
seriously mate, if you want to be respect by others, show some normality on you, instead of creating drama after another, and pretend to be a victom of it at the very same time.
I know you'll probably disagree, but all I did was ask a simple question: why were alicia and scott listed as CL's again? Then I made a joke about me applying and everyone went mad and that's when it all kicked off.
well kid, don't you think it may be wise to think over, why you can make jokes and other people gotta give way to your jokes, but when other make jokes about you, you consider people mad at you?
to be honest, in a reality society, there's hundrets, thousands, and millions of people will make joke at you everyday, if you gonna mad at them all, ooh, your life will be very busy with complains, complains and more complains. but you know what? you can't sue for anyone just because you are mad at them for making jokes, you know.
so, get a life, live your life, whatever it happen, its over. if you don't have life out of zone, make the use of zone to have a good life, instead of making more and more dramas. that aint getting you anyware. after you finish your school, drama king on your resume won't provide you any future. zone won't provide you with any future either. only what you want to do with your life will give you a bright future.
Well ee is my wo cents:
1. How many of us really know the full story? Are we in any place to really say one way or the other?
2: Based on the self-important, insulting, hateful and sometimes purely retarded crap that certain people post around here, I can think of a number of individuals that should have had this happen to them. Since I don't know the full story here I can't say if the CLs were in the wrong or not. What I do think however is that this is a matter that should not have created high-school he-said she-said drama. Professional, if you have a problem with the way the CLs treat you, confront them as you did in private. It's none of our business. CLs, if he really was in the wrong, he needs to know his place and have his violation explained to him in a manner which he can understand. Perhaps I, as the goody-goody noob has no right to encroach on what is clearly none of my business, but it seems like all I see around here are people insulting, back-stabbing, swaring at and simply bullying each other. Honestly I didn't believe all the crap I heard people say about this place, and now I'm starting to realize there must have been at least some truth. Can't we, just for once, act like responsable adults? Can't we, for once treat one another with at least some friggen human dignity and respect? I realize that I'm encumpassing a lot of people with my comments and have strayed somewhat from the issue at hand, but I felt it needed to be said and most people will probably ignore or flame me anyway. To those of you who are truely good people here, I sincerely appologize.
Guardian
wow professional your back again? i thaught you had shut up this time. and in fact just as much as you think that you are th most important person on this site. let me make it clear to you that your not.
so your aloud to make jokes about someone else, but no one is aloud to do it to you is that it? get over yourself boy. you in de big leagues now.
the temp block on
his qns might be a bit harsh, how ever there are times earlyer in the year when he should have been shut up.
oh and before you say it? yes d generation x take full responsability for what happened, we control the cls even when we are sleeping.
and if your not down with that, we got 2 words fo ya!
the temp block on
As far as I know, and anyone can feel free to correct me, but there are no actual guidelines for CL's when it comes to muzzling users. Perhaps it is meerly ethical that if it is done, it can only be done for a short time. Perhaps a CL could explain to us the reason why the feature was created to start with, but since we don't know for sure, we can't just assume that the professional made any vialations at all. Nevertheless he got what he got - a short-lived punishment for causing a bit of drama by spouting conspiricy theories about the recent resignations and reinstatements of Quinton, Scott and Alicia as community leaders. As I still believe it was a bit of fun for all other than the professional, I can only reitterate: Get over it, move on.
When I was blocked, I was still able to send pqn's. But when I sent a pqn to all 3 of the CL's asking them to either unblock my account or give me a proper reason, none of them responded. I'm now waiting for Chris N to respond to my email about this and go from there.
If Chris cares, which he probably doesn't, he only has to read quicknote history between the hours I specified earlier to decide to do diddly squat. For the umpteenth time: Get! Over! It!
as i said earlier, i do think that cls have took it bit too far in this matter, however, for those who know Scott in private, it would have nothing but simple a sarcasm joke for the kid. yes, what he did may be over the top but at the same time, if professional kid didn't take it seriously as he does, perhaps the whole thing won't be started in the first place. i was here most of the time, and we were all having fun by making jokes. yes, they might not be necessary, but over all, this is a community, for chatting, joking, and socializing. no one expected everyone to agree on the same thing, but if i recall it well enough, he is the first who started with jokes about it, then, everyone follow his footprints. was it necessary? maybe not, but, hey lets face it, everyone were trying to have a great time on public qns. for those who can't stand public jokes or conforntations or dramas, can simply remove themselves in to the private world, or leave zone all together.
can we muzzle robby from the boards as well? stop your bitching and go back to learning nursery rymes one in particular hmmm maybe oh i don't know hickery dickery dock? just a thought.
Going back to post 23, Welcome to the weird and wonderful world of the Zone BBS. From what I can tell, the zone has always been full of bitching, bullying and other such content. If we are not going to accept new members in to the community, then perhaps it's time to call it a day by setting new registrations to invitation only or completely disabled.
lmao joseph!
hickery dickery dock? the professional went up the clock?
the clock struck one,
bang went the gun,
hickery dickery dock
The zone would have a lot of trouble expanding if it was invitational. Besides, it wouldn't filter out trouble makers... it would just take them longer to get here. The solution to the problem is not to cause drama in the first place, or start something that can evolve into drama. If you don't like the drama, professional, don't start it.
most of the newbies are truely accepted in to the community, only few weird one, who come with some sort of expectation, or intention or think they needed some extra attention from others, would get in to all sort of unexpected troubles that is not necessary. if one could ignore drama, as much as not starting up a drama, zone can be quite a welcoming place for new members. but as i said, if any of the new member or any existing member think him or her own is better than others in terms of being a victom of drama, then, it basicly make the own bed for it to sleep in.
there's one clasic phrase in chinese who direct translate as "if a cow aint thersty, no matter how hard you push it's head down, it won't take a drink of water". apply to everyone on zone. if you aren't intent to get in to drama, stay away from it, then, you will be safe from all sort of expected and unexpected troubles.
All I can say is this. I'm glad I turned public QNS off a long time ago.
Hi Zoners,,
I never left the zone, I just don't log in much. I did however have to log in when I read this post. I have been around the zone for a few years. 15 minutes, or 15 hours without explanation isn't right. For there to have been 3 community leaders on at once and none of them responded to his requests for a reason to the musseling, is inexcuseible.
also notice that the CL's in question have been oddly silent about this. Mya, and Scott, come on defend yourselves. Taking the fifth is not reasonable.
Knowing Mya and Scott, I hope that they did reply to him privatly. I hope that they told him why he was being musseled and he's just not telling us. I hope they told him that he was acting in a manner that was against the terms of service. I hope they told him something, anything. That's my hope, and when Mya or Scott replies to this board and sets the record straight, then the rest of you can go back to bashing this young man.
Nem
Actually, I have the real reason that caused the muzzeling, since I'm the one who did it. His muzzling had nothing to do with what he was saying specifically, rather, that it was becoming very idsruptive to the site. Pretty much every QN at the time I muzzeled him was someone picking on him. As the professional has filed complaints about being bullied in the past, and he would not log out, the only way to stop this was to muzzle him. If you want to tackle this from the perspective of him being a kid, I was intervening on his behalf to help the bullying stop. And
it worked. Except that he then came here and posted more stuff so that users would continue to abuse him. So, if nothing else, we've
learned from this that he does indeed like being bullied, contrary to what he claims on other boards and in public quicknotes. He has been told time and time again that this bullying will happen if he continues to post the type of content that he does, yet he refuses to listen. And, to you specifically Rob, had you asked why I did it, which I didn't see that you did over pqn's, I would have gladly explained my reasons for my actions to you in private. Or, you could have sent a private message. Instead, you have decided to go this route, which is fine, so now everyone can see exactly why I did what I did. Again, it had nothing to do with what he was posting specifically, just that he was being bullied and this was the only way to stop it at the time.
Scott, if you look back though the qn's at the time, you actually contributed to the bullying yourself. And you should've sent me a pqn explaining why you were doing it instead of me having to ask (though i will admit that in my anger i sent my request for a reason to alicia instead of you because at the time it wasn't 100 % clear who did it. And then to start saying: "oh look at him in the user list, he's blocked from sending public qn's, let's make fun of him" is not fair in my opinion. Okay, i appreciate you may not have said it quite like that, but that's how it came across to me anyways. Don't forget that I was already slightly irritated by what was happening, but the "muzzling" just sent me over the edge. In future, if you or the other CL's are gonna do that to me, can you at least send me a pqn or private message explaining the reason and how long it will last.
A. Because I'm a CL, that doesn't mean I can not do or say what I want as long as it complies with the Terms of Service. Cl's only help with the day to day operation of the site, we, beyond that capacity, are no different than any other user.
B. Yes, I will alert you in the future if muzzleing becomes necissary. I also had many things on my plate at the time, so appologize for not doing so before. The QN I sent above saying that "I fixed the Professional" should have told who did the muzzling though.
Further, please get your story streight. You say at the beginning of the topic that you sent all 3 of us a PQN, now you finally admit that you didn't send us all private quicknotes. The latter is true of course, and thank you for clearing up the fact that you didn't actually send us all PQN's.
okay, so i wrote the last post in this topic quite quickly. To clear things up, I actually sent messages to Alicia and Nehamiah and was about to send one to you and got distracted. If you'd sent the pqn, I probably wouldn't have created this topic. But in my opinion, and remember this is my opinion, I feel the whole situation was rather poorly managed. And some of the comments from Nehamiah and Alicia also did not help the situation. Looking back I can kinda see why you blocked me, but at the time it seemed like you did it just to deliberately piss me off and give yourself and everyone else a good laugh at my expense.
And while I appreciate that you should have freedom of speech and the right to be a normal zoner, it seems a bit odd telling me off when you and the other staff members were contributing to the bullying and making it worse. Also, why didn't you "muzzle" some of the other people who were sending the messages as well? It seems rather suspicious to be honest that you only blocked me and not anyone else.
Remember that this (along with everything I said last night) is my own opinion, so please respect that.
Thank You
What a pathetic reason for muzzling somebody. Scott has admitted that people were bullying the Proffessional, but rather than muzzle the bullies, he chose to punish the victim instead by muzzling him because he wouldn't log out. He shouldn't have to log out to avoid being bullied. The bullies should be held responsible for their actions and measures should be taken to prevent them from commiting further acts of bullying.
If anybody was disrupting the site, it was the people who were bullying the Proffessional, and in doing so, violating term 5 of the terms of service, which says that the posting of content which negatively impacts a user's experience is not allowed.
Reading board posts that coddle a thirteen year old who tilts at windmills and then cries for mommy when the people whose toes he steps on start kicking back, is negatively effecting my zone experience. Now knock it the hell off.
scott, I believe that is his name, chose the path of least resistance, I'm quite sure that it is much easier to muzzle one annoying little squirt, than it is to muzzle several dozen slightly larger squirts. If you don't believe me, buy some pitbulls and some muzzles, and try it for yourself.
rob, your age aside, you have to learn eventually that if you kick the tiger in the ass, you need to have a plan for dealing with his teeth. If you start spreading rumors and complaining about every little thing, people will not respond well to you, and your feelings will be hurt. You do not have to create a board post every time you don't get your way. It would have been perfectly easy for you to send one of the CL's, or scott more specifically, a private message saying that you were offended by what he did, and would like an explanation. I'm sure that you would have received the above answer, and that would have been the end of it. You would not have to deal with all the backlash that you coontinuously complain about.
for the record, I agree with the person who said that he enjoys the backlash, because its the only way he can get atention.
Enjoy my two cents.
Here is the problem.
Rob, before you blame this on others, take a look at yourself. I won't repeat what has been said time and time again, but if you want things to change, you and only you have the power to change how you respond to/view things. you're responsible for yourself, no one else. if you get your feelings hurt, instead of creating a board topic about it, try going directly to the person who hurt your feelings and resolving it with them. then, if that doesn't work, talk to a cl or adman.
I think the problem is that the CLs and the Admins were joining in with the bullies. The moderators weren't around and are never around, so he couldn't go to them.
Rob may have said things people didn't like, but from what I've seen, the other side have not conducted themselves any better than he has. They completely escape blame and their actions are not criticised, punished or stopped.
i've tried resolving issues with the people responsible, but it hasn't worked; in most cases it actually makes it worse. And as you can probably tell by recent events, the CL's haven't been all that helpful. Oh and i'm still awaiting a response from the email I sent to Chris N. If Scott wishes to come out of invisibility and talk to me via pqn or email, then i'm not stopping you.
lol I was GOING TO STAY OUT OF THIS> BUT LOL! I'm laughing my ass off at your reply Scott. your my scottie dog and I wuff ya, but that is a load of shit. lol! Just say you were having fun witht the muzzle feature and leave it at that! Saying he was muzzled because he was being picked on, lol It happens every time he's logged in, petty kids see his name and instantly jump on him. So by you saying you muzzled him for his own good. Tells all the other little petty twenty some year old kids, it's ok keep picking on him and we'll punish him for it! I can't think how I want to say this because I'm still laughing my ass off at your cop out! heheheh So I'm going to stop now.
and professional. ignore it all. I don't mean use the ignore feature, because I can see why you don't like it. but yeah, ignore them, they'll go away. They will move on to there new prey when they see that can't get a respond out of you. They always do. The next victim will have to do the same. sad, but true. the sooner you realize this, the sooner you will put a stop to it all. The ball is in your court now. it's up to you how your going to play it!
I just put the assholes giving me shit on ignore. they wanna act like two day olds let em. they just cant deal with themselves. and as for the mute the bullied. thats promoting bullying ppl. Please think of the adverse effects of what you do. For all involved. How would you feel if someone did that to you??? How would you like it if someone treated you like shit and you got the shit end of the stick for it? this goes back to the golden rule.
@Rob: I would come on visibly, if I had a specific amount of time I could spend on here at the moment. Problem is, I'm a student and am also teaching today, so my schedule doesn't allow me to be on for more than a few minutes. Perhaps tomorrow evening your time? Also, you again are writing inconsistancies. First you sent us all private quicknotes, then it was just Alicia, and later it was both Alicia and Miah. Maybe you should try thinking things through before posting them to quicknotes and boards? This is just one example on how you clearly are lacking to do this.
@Shea: Actually, it's not a cop out at all. While it's true that I have muzzled people in the past for a goof, I have never done this to someone who can't handle the joke. Rob would be one who falls in to that category. Call it a cop out if you will, but I'm here to tell you that wasn't the case.
Now regarding the issue of removing the "victum" as he is referred to here, let's take this one with an analogy. If a kid runs out on to a busy highway and cars can or are not willing to stop, what would happen? Would it be best to try and stop all traffic, or would it be best to pull the child out of harms way? To keep with this analogy, I won't be pulling Rob out of the way anymore. It's clear he would rather throw himself in to harm's way than get hit repeatedly. SO, I won't be muzzling you anymore.
*goes off to look at QN history*. I'll return. I really can't give much of an opinion until I know exactly what was said.
Comparing bullies to people who are driving properly is absurd.
The car drivers would have done no wrong if they just driving their cars. The bullies have done plenty of wrong.
Focusing on whether Rob contacted one CL, 2 or 3 is another cop-out. One thing community leaders can still do is prevent bullying. They'd rather join in.
Ah man, I can't find it. I'm not very familiar with how to use QN history, but I'm sure it's there somehow. Sorry, that makes the last two posts a waste of time and space.
I wil say this, though. Where, on the T.O.S., does it say that users cannot say anything negative about CL's?
I'm sure the whole thing was quite funny, but was it right?...
omg! I love you Shea. :p
To access the part of qn history you're look for:
1. click on "premium: quicknote history"
2. navigate through the form until you come to the area that says "starting date:"
3. In here, set the month combo box to November.
4. Set the day combo box to 1
5. Now go to the "start time:" area.
6. In the "select hour" combo box, choose 17
7. In the "select minutes" combo box, set it to 00
8. go along the form until you get to "order by:"
9. in that combo box, select "oldest first"
10. go to and press the "display quicknotes" button and you're ready to read.
Senior:
If a small child continuously shoves a fork into a wall outlet, do you yell at the wall outlets for being electircal, or do you take the forks away from the child and tell them to knock it off?
You keep saying that, if he were popular, then his qn's would be accepted. Well, news flash, he's not popular. You could also say that, were he made of chocolate, we could wrap him in foil and make him the zone's own little chocolate easter bunny, but guess what, he is not made of chocolate. using what might be, should be, or could have been, does not matter. What matters, is what is, and the fact of the matter is this: On this site, if you want the ability to say whatever you want, then you have to be popular. If you don't like that, your going to have a hard time, because the rest of life, in any public setting, is pretty much that way too. Look at celebrities in the news.
Okay, I'll save you all the trouble of finding it in QN history by doing what I did earlier in the thread. This is a pretty long read and, now that i look back on it, pretty hard core. Judge for yourselves how much of this should be taken as a joke, how much should be taken seriously, and how much was over the top. Personally, I think it probably was over the top, but as for consequences - I still think the whole thing should just be dropped and let's get on with our lives. I told the professional that in a short-lived PQN conversation this morning (evening my time) but I think my words either flew over his head or in one ear and out the other. Well anyway, enjoy the reading. (Skip over it if you're sensitive to volgarity.)
the professional:
hey how come alicia and scott are cl's again!
the professional:
did they change their minds or something? have i missed something important?
Senior:
They're not but it says they are on their profiles I think because J Squared hasn't demoted them.
Donkey Ocka:
Scott's message has just gone up... check the boards.
maroon five:
yes they are and so is Q, so live with it.
SisterDawn:
Hahahaha, Senior. So you think. Read the boards.
KC8PNL:
No, the degeneration X gang hacked in to our accounts and disabled our cl priviledges. We're so glad you warned us, thanks go out to the Professional.
SisterDawn:
Tel him, Liz.
Senior:
I've read it now. I could have told him his resignation would have no impact. Do the other two not speak for themselves? Scott returns and they too return. Get rid of them both and let's have some CLs who make decisions independently. They're like a gang.
Yuriko:
lmao scott
SisterDawn:
Yes, Scott. I confronted the DX leaders about that last week, and they admitted to it.
Austin's Angel:
Congrats to all three of you guys, and hope things get a bit better.
maroon five:
lmaoooo Scott!
Donkey Ocka:
yeah, sorry about the whole hacking incident... it's been fixed up now. lol. and there was no harm in at least trying...
the professional:
damn, there goes my already slim chance of being a cl. oh well!
skittles_freak:
lol scott! it'd be funny of the d x leaders really did hack into your account and do that!
Senior:
Congratulations? It's not an achievement. What is the world coming to when people are being congratulated for making a decision about whether to lead a community on the internet?
Donkey Ocka:
slim? oh yeah... well that'd be the sure quickest way to kill the zone BBS. lol
Senior:
Don't give up yet Proffessional.
skittles_freak:
god, if this 14 year old twit was the cl, I think I'd commit internet suicide, not real life suicide, but probably zone suicide in any case, roflmao!
SisterDawn:
Yes, it sure would, Steve.
season:
sinior, at least is an achievement. if nothing else. not many people are capable for such role, considering zone is the most famous drama pool, with the appearance of drama kings like now for instence, you see
Donkey Ocka:
it doesn't have to be an achievement to deserve congradulations. they're taking responsibility.
KC8PNL:
Hey professional: how the hell can you even stand a chance of being a CL when you don't apply? Just curious.
season:
ooh, if he's a cl, i'll drown myself in the darling / mary river. pick one of your choice. lol
KC8PNL:
It's users like Wane that make me not want to stick on here. His meer presence makes us all look more stupid.
Austin's Angel:
... Forget it. I'm not going to correct myself for someone who misinterprits everything and likes to cry and make a big deal out of it
Princess Leia:
I think he did apply. Oh and, are they looking for new CL's yet?
season:
rofl, maybe better chance with the southern ocean. lmfao
SisterDawn:
Yes, but more users that make it worth our having come back.
Senior:
Scott may resign again. If he does, what are the chances of Q and Sisterdawn resigning too? Community leaders should lead not follow.
Austin's Angel:
I think it was brave of them to come back. I mean those three are the only three CL's I see around, and with them gone and the rest of them not on as often the Zone would surely go down hill.
season:
the only cl should really done and gone is mad Doggy. hasn't seen him form ages. i don't care if he loged in as invisible or whatever, if he is a cl, he should stay visible all the time.
KC8PNL:
No, the professional did not apply. I'm sitting here with the apps in front of me. LOL.
KC8PNL:
None of us stay visible all the time Joann. We'd never get any work done if we did.
SisterDawn:
No, he doesn't log in, even invisibly, trust me, Joanne.
maroon five:
but at least most of you come on visible though.
SisterDawn:
Yes, Liz, we do try to. What's the point of being a community leader if you're not going to interact with the community?
the professional:
just to let people know, i do have an application for cl on file. i put it up on the day the cl's resigned!
Austin's Angel:
Professional. Did you not hear? you don't apply
maroon five:
then you must have put it up in your head.
MBULLET4058:
the professional as cl? eeewwwwww!!!!!
KC8PNL:
Hmm. I didn't see it, but I'll go look for some laughs if it is.
Donkey Ocka:
well since we're trying to move the zone forward, someone may have taken it upon him or herself to remove said application. lol jk
season:
i know AliCia, and i know there's the needs of invisible, but at least, you guys do appeared. lol
The game:
scott post his aplacation public that would indeed be a big laugh/. it would be like a tard applying to be a pylet.
KC8PNL:
LOL. Thanks for the entertainment professional!
The game:
or i have a better idea.
the professional:
You indicated an interest in being a community leader on Monday, 26-Oct-2009 08:05:24.
Donkey Ocka:
just for my own entertainment, professional, if you did become a CL, what would you do? hmm? lol
season:
er, perhaps blows everyone pants off and show that he do have a penis over all? lmfao
The game:
the professional's ap.
Why are you interested in being a community leader?:
well i can rock and dribble all day and bitch about false hacking.
the professional:
so it appears to be there, waiting for the admins to hit the "promote account" button!
SisterDawn:
Wow, Joanne!
Donkey Ocka:
wo... if that were to happen I would probably follow Karie into internet suicide. lol
season:
hehehe, you're nearer to the southern ocean than mine, maybe you can take a swim there when pocket toothpick become a cl donkey dear? lol
the professional:
i'd serve the community by carrying out cl duties like validating new accounts, finding and disabling duplicate accounts, and removing content and/or users from the zone when necessary. no, i'm not going to go on a banning rampage disabling every account i find!
The game:
What previous experience have you had with The Zone BBS?:
well i would create retarded board posts and wine.
Donkey Ocka:
Ocean? nah... I'd prefer to just jump out of the cargo bay halfway through my flight to Paris to visit happy Cris. lol
KC8PNL:
In your case, it's the promote this account and swallow a shotgun button I think professional.
Donkey Ocka:
well professional, at least you sound like a politician. lol
Yuriko:
lmao i created an application in my special way once, lol i should have really posted it instead of only in qn's lmao
maroon five:
lol Joseph, you forgot bitch and cry.
KC8PNL:
What previous experience have you had with The Zone BBS?
I've begged and pleaded until someone felt sorry for my whiny ass and bought me a premium account.
dark sapphire:
i bet he sets on his ass all day on the pc lol
season:
and what politicians do in this world? fuck on their pants and wet them. lol
Public life is certainly not like life on this website.
For example, tomorrow I will be on a course. There are some people most of the people (me included) who will be on that course do not like. However were we to be abusive towards them just because they asked a question, or because they said something we disagreed with, that would not be acceptable. The same goes in the IT training sessions I co-ordinate.
Adults abusing teenagers certainly wouldn't be accepted.
Okay I wasn't banking on other posts slipping in between mine so this continues from post 57.
The game:
What previous computer experience do you have? How comfortable are you with use of websites and other Internet applications?:
well i look at tard porn and jerk off to male horse's getting it up.
the professional:
and my decisions would not be swayed as easily because i have very few close friends on here so that is not so much of an issue. plus i'm used to moderating because i'm a co-admin on another blindness forum (http://www.blinkchat.org.uk).
KC8PNL:
Being a co-admin of a website with 2 members isn't that difficult...
The game:
Much of your job as community leader is dealing with users' questions. What previous experience have you had that would help you in this area?:
well if they were guys i will hit on them then bitch to girls about how i'm a helpless dribbler.
season:
hmm, should include how retarted are you?
i'm an absolutely faithful to my retarted sell as at the age of 14.
Donkey Ocka:
and by the time he's done, this sight will have two members too... his account and J's, since J wouldn't know that everyone else had left. lol
dark sapphire:
hmmmmmmm this isn't a forum hvery different
(The following is a fake QN done by dark sapphire)
the professional:
i'm a fat guy who thinks i know it all. i am in charge of porn sites around the world!
KC8PNL:
He did say one thing accurately, he has very few close friends on here, I'd even wager that he has very few close friends at all.
SisterDawn:
Besides, you know there's something pathetic about a website when it has to have the word, Blink, in it's name. Take Professional's site, or Blinknation as examples.
season:
well, he definitely has sinior as a friend, thats for sure. lol
Donkey Ocka:
I don't think he'd be too interested in porn... what's the point if you can't get it up? lol
maroon five:
he's a co-admin on another websight of 2 members cause his mommy is the other member.
KC8PNL:
What would you do in a situation where you are asked a question and are unsure of the answer?:
Piss my pants and blame the zone degenaration x gang for my not knowing the answer.
season:
oh yeah true, forget that point. he's a toothpick over all
FallenMoonlight:
hey alicia, why does it say u guys are cl's again?
The game:
What would you do in a situation where you are asked a question and are unsure of the answer?:
well i would create a board topic about it! then ask my zone regeneration x member my dad! after i finnish thrusting his loobed up arss!
the professional:
ignore all the retarded answers cos they are fake. and my site currently has 121 members and growing!
KC8PNL:
What other information would you like to tell us? You must write something. Interests? Favorite fruit?:
My dad is my favorite fruit because he bangs me in the ass daily.
SisterDawn:
Because we are, Jess. We got reinstated today. Long story. Basically, we figured out our resignations would not have the desired effect, which was to get J to wake up and pay attention to his own site. All it did was hurt the site and the users. Since the users are the reason we were CL's in the first place, we came back.
maroon five:
yeah, your mommy and whoever else she's paid. lol
FallenMoonlight:
oh wow, i sure miss a lot when i go just for a night. lol
KC8PNL:
Those numbers don't count when you've created 120 of those accounts yourself. LOL
KC8PNL:
How much time per week can you commit to being a community leader?:
every minute. My site has 121 of my own creations on it, although I may need breaks from time to time so that my mommy can change my poopy pants and douche my vagina.
SisterDawn:
Fucking nasty, scott! Glad I wasn't eating just then.
The game:
lets muzzle the professional.
KC8PNL:
Hickery dickery dock....
maroon five:
the prefeshonal got swallowed by a crock.
the professional:
if u 3 hadn't returned to being cl's and i wasn't selected, then i think twkav, lutherk and aspie geek woman would make brilliant cl's. oh and replace ather with senior.
harrypotter:
Those all would have been stupid CL's. Including Senior.
Donkey Ocka:
Tyler, Luther, Reina and Senior all CL's? what a motly collection that would be... lol
Yuriko:
oh yes especially lutherk. seriously. just cause he sucks on your boobies you promised him to give the good word for him.
FallenMoonlight:
professional go away!
KC8PNL:
As community leader, you have access to information which users and premium members do not. (Note that you do not have access to passwords, billing information,
or the ability to change points.) What do you feel are appropriate and inappropriate uses of this information?:
Well, one appropriate use is that I will be premium, so I won't have to cry like a little bitch for one later. Inappropriate use would be banning everyone who doesn't like me. I mean, the entire zone would be gone, and we'd have just as many people on my site as this one.
SisterDawn:
Yeah, if any single one of those got it, the site would be dead for sure, within a day.
season:
hey toothpick, invite them to your cheep blinkchat or whatever retarted name you gave it, and sign them as cl? then, you guys can have a group fuck over there, you see
the professional:
and the word blinkchat was not my idea, it was the main admins idea and was chosen before i was promoted.
Donkey Ocka:
good point that. if you're already co-admin somewhere else that is, to use your word, growing, then why would you care about taking responsibility here? lol
KC8PNL:
Just in case anyone needs a refresher....
hickery dickery dock.
The professional was sucking my cock.
The clock struck 2,
He swallowed my goo,
And I dumped that bitch on the next block.
skittles_freak:
as I'm sitting here pondering my life, and watching little robby and his boring no drama site plans be useless...
The game:
it should have been tard or dribble chat with the window lickers.
twkav:
Scott, Alicia, I thought you two had resigned...?
Princess Leia:
Fucking A! You're the blink co-admin? I'm never going on there again! All right, maybe a few times to make fun of some of the idiots. lol
SisterDawn:
We did, we've been reinstated. Long story.
* skittles_freak performs sectum sempra on the so-called professional, then goes on with performing avada cadavera on him as well!
KC8PNL:
Let's all go over there and be the blinkchat degeneration x gang!
KC8PNL:
Read the boards Tyler...
twkav:
Nothing was posted to the news file, but I'll go check the announcements board.
skittles_freak:
blinkchat? is that another blinknation like thing?
KC8PNL:
And if u aren't down with that, I got 3 words for ya: hickery dickery dock
The game:
i just hacked into blinkchat. Ooo nice i'll have two members passwords dam that's the intire site.
skittles_freak:
tyler you self absorbed idiot, It doesn't have to be posted to the news room...
The game:
i did not know we needed tyler's permision to update the news file.
KC8PNL:
It's old news, since it's like we never left. Cuuuute, huh?
Princess Leia:
Ooooh yeah I'll join that, and the zoners can invade and totally fuck over the site.
the professional:
scott, stop it with the updates:
(The following is a fake QN done by the professional)
link SisterDawn:
i bet J is writing my cheque out right now! so being a cl isn't all that bad and it was worth coming back just for the $1000
skittles_freak:
but, what is blinkchat? lol.
season:
*** this is the news room from blinkchat, we are shutting down this website because our co-admin need to change his poopy nappy
harrypotter:
$1000? You don't get that money for being a CL.
season:
rofl, if they have $1000 on their account from J, i reckon all of them will start dancing naked on zone. lmfao
KC8PNL:
The professional is about as funny as getting hurpies.
Donkey Ocka:
gee wiz, if you're gonna do a fake QN then make something good of it.
(The following is a fake QN done by Donkey Ocka)
link the professional:
I really need to wash my mouth out after swallowing all that goo.
Princess Leia:
Oh I didn't think cl's were paid.
Donkey Ocka:
CL's aren't paid... that would require an admin who gives a damn for a start. lol
The game:
Hmm.
(The following is a fake QN done by The Game)
link the professional;
i really love to ride grand dad like a bronko as he's propped up in his rocker hooked up to Iv's
SisterDawn:
We're not, Iyana. Never have been. That's one of the things that made his fake QN so incredibly stupid.
* season phone hacking to the professional account one evening, hearing him and sinior gay fucking. got recorded, and posted on youtube, you see
Donkey Ocka:
now professional, if you feel like you're suddenly missing a few QN's every now and then, it's because I've just logged into your account and am getting them on the home page. don't worry though - QN history is your friend. lol
SisterDawn:
Good God, Joseph! Funny, but horrible!
Donkey Ocka:
and for those wo couldn't tell, that last QN was a joke. lol
maroon five:
lol Steve. get his pqn's to. lol
Donkey Ocka:
sure... I'll get them and post them in public. lol
the professional:
well i know people will disagree and the cl's will deny it, but i think there's something suspicious going on with this whole resigning and then coming back!
KC8PNL:
Steve, I'm going to bann you for hacking in to his account. You filthy, smelly, good for nothing cock sucking degeneration x gang member!
Donkey Ocka:
well if you're gonna throw something like that out there then you might as well say why you think it's suspicious...
season:
wb happy chris. you miss the most highlight of zone in 6 years. the professional having sex with sinior, you see
Donkey Ocka:
that's okay Scott, if I need a zone fix I'll just use his account. lol
The game:
the professional is so ugly he had windows tented in his incubater.
The game:
there goes robby talking out his ass again s always they should replace it with his face.
happyman:
ah season, do tell, want more details. hahaha
season:
ah, we spend the last hour or so cleaning up his wet nappy, you see, he don't exactly know how to change, so, we need to help him out, you see
the professional:
well it just seems suspicious that the cl's suddenly resigned with no real advanced notice and less than a week afterwards have mysteriously returned. what is also suspicious is that the item in the news file about the 3 cl's resigning was removed a few days ago and the bit in the file about welcoming alicia to the staff was never removed!
SisterDawn:
It was amusing, even to me. That was Chris N's doing, not any of ours.
harrypotter:
Robert, could you please shut the hell up about it? It wasn't freaking suspicious, and you know that very well.
season:
hehehe, the message about welcoming alicia was way back dated from early this year isn't it?
the professional:
besides you lot should be greatful! i was the one who, a few months ago, reported a bug where any member could gain access to the email address of any premium member (this has now been fixed by chris n).
Donkey Ocka:
well lying around all day in wet nappies and offering blow jobs would probably sharpen his imagination. if the thing was done properly, as in with the admins actually getting involved, there would have been advance notice and none of that news file stuff.
SisterDawn:
Yes, Joanne, it was all the way back from February. Many of the items in that file are really old and could be removed. I should make a project of clearing it out. But then it would anounce to all the user that it had been updated, when really, nothing new would be there. It would just show that because it does any time you change anything in it.
The game:
wow robby has done one good thing in his life can he do another and slit his rists? it may reduce his blood pressure.
season:
offering blow jobs? him? er, might over the bridge for him, you see
SisterDawn:
You are right, Steve. If it hadn't been for trying to send a message and make a point to J, we never would have given our positions up. When we did that last week, we had no idea we'd be coming back.
the professional:
i have a suggestion: if the admins are no longer implementing new features, then shouldn't we lock the suggestions board? oh wait, that probably requires an admin'''oh well!
season:
How much time per week can you commit to being a community leader?:
as much time as it take to get the pocket toothpick's penis up and running, you see
the professional:
and throughout this whole ordeal, there has been no word in public from the admins, even chris!
Donkey Ocka:
of course there hasn't been a word from the admins... isn't that the whole point? lol
SisterDawn:
I doubt J is aware it ever happened. As for Chris, it is his perogative whether he chooses to comment on a situation or not.
season:
How would you deal with conflicts of interest such as being close friends with someone on The Zone and having to do something against your friend's wishes,
or a situation where your friend tried to sway your decision?:
i'll run and screem, asking for help from RX gang, as they are good in dealing with wet nappies and poops pants, you know
season:
i guess, maybe is the best he didn't. over all, he have been done hell lot for this site, and i asume, he's the one who gotta take all this in, when j sitting and wagging his banana while rocking his ball, you see
KC8PNL:
Yes, the professional is right. We did all this just to both piss him off and give him something to talk about.
SisterDawn:
Joanne is correct. I don't blame Chris for not commenting, when he knows he'd take crap like this. He is the one who suffers most for J's lack of involvement.
the professional:
hmm, as some people have said, i think the zone is slowly dying. if i had the money, i'd make an offer to buy the zone off of J, but he probably wouldn't respond to my email! still, this friday's euro millions lottery jackpot is £90000000
season:
well, overall, what can he do? he's just a person, against 9000users. i thin he handleling it quite well, to be honest
the professional:
but come to think of it, chris doesn't appear to be all that active either (at least not visibly).
SisterDawn:
No, not visibly he isn't. Again, cuz I think he knows that if he came on here visibly, he'd be assailed with crazy nonsense and conspiracy theories like yours.
Donkey Ocka:
if he really wants to attempt to smooth this thing over then he should probably say something, but I guess it is up to him.
the professional:
there are currently 5411 users (not including disabled accounts). but about 1000 of those are abandoned accounts.
skittles_freak:
actually, there are like over 9000 users you twatface!
season:
is that the accurate count of register users, doubt it though, the active one, perhaps, 100 or less. due to some retarted soul we have on zone
skittles_freak:
indeed, season... retarded souls indeed...
KC8PNL:
How do you know how many accounts are disabled? LOL.
* skittles_freak growls... professional, why are you still spewing out your ass? I thought I put sectum sempra and avada cadora, do I have to put the imperious curse on you as well...? or crucio?
Donkey Ocka:
the only way to know who the active people around here would be to work out all the people who have logged in and done something in the last two weeks. who wants to campaign the admins to implement that feature? lol
the professional:
well let's all hope the server doesn't go funny; JJ wouldn't know about it, wouldn't fix it and that'd be the end of the zone!
skittles_freak:
oh, even if the server went funny, you're forgetting JJ isn't the only admin, isn't chris N still an admin?
skittles_freak:
unless that's changed, like I said, I don't get into this kind of drama lately...
SisterDawn:
Yes, he is, Carrie. Chris would fix it.
* skittles_freak gives professional the body bind so he can't move... grrr, he must be related to lord voldimort, why aren't any of my curses working? *sighs* I'll have to get fluffy and his 3 heads over here to do the job...
(And this is where the muzzling occurs)
KC8PNL:
I fixed the professional.
SingerOfSongs:
ah. Suddenly I feel that impending headache going away.
SisterDawn:
Way to fucking go, Scott! That's my man!
Okay, that's it.
Disgusting! Absolutely disgusting!
Blatant cyberbullying with the support and participation of community leaders.
Adults getting pleasure from bullying a thirteen-year-old who wasn't equally or more abusive towards them.
Hi, all. As I re-read over the QN's that Steve has kindly posted, I do have some thoughts.
1. Though most of what was going on yesterday was a joke, I will readily admit that some of it was over the top, and that I did contribute some to it. Professional, for that, I apologize. Though we are still average users in some ways, I should have conducted myself differently. I will agree with the others and say that most of what happens to you, you bring upon yourself, and you have more power to stop it than you are willing to admit. However, this does not mean I should conduct myself in the manner I did. No one can help you when you do not wish to change your behavior. All I can control is my own, and will do so.
2. Given your inconsistencies on who you sent PQN's to, I went back through my own PQN history, and see that you did indeed try to contact me. I am sorry, I did not see that yesterday when this mess was unfolding. If I had, I would have responded by telling you to take the muzzling issue up with Scott himself, as he was the one who did it, not I. Again, my apologies to you for not responding to your PQN.
3. I also agree that posting this board topic was a mistake. I know your desire to make what you perceive as unfair treatment known, but I do not think this way of doing so does you any favors with the other users of the site. That is just my two cents. And PS, to Cody, some very well-worded posts here.
Why is the focus on the Proffessional's behaviour. It's as if you haven't read through all those quicknotes. There is no condemnation of the disgusting, abusive bullying that was going on here yesterday. It isn't even criticised. The only behaviour that is challenged is that of Rob, who simply asked a question.
Despite the abuse he was being subjected to, Rob showed incredible restraint.
The only mistake Rob has made, is not demanding the demotion of the CLs who decided to join in with, instead of preventing the bullying.
If any of the volunteers I manage behaved like that towards the members of the organisation I volunteer for, they'd be dismissed straight away. There'd be none of this "let's blame it all on the victim" mentality.
Wayne: while it's wonderful that your organization does what it does, this is not a professional situation. As such, I don't need or want to act like it is. Life on and off doesn't work like it does in the organization you are a part of. If I actually were working or or on behalf of an organization where I was required to get along with others, I have no problem doing that. But there is no clause that says I need to get along with anyone here. BTW< he's 14 now, not 13. Also, while it's great that you do some work for some organization, this is not that website. The context is totally different, so this makes comparing what is clearly your limited experience inappropriate.
I admit, muzzling him may not have been the right thing to do, and from now on, I'll just let people verbally beat the crap out of him. You can't keep the kid away from the electric outlet, so let him get shocked over and over again. He seems to enjoy it. Thank you cody for that much better articulation of what I was trying to say...
I'm not saying you have to get along with him, but my point is that as a community leader, you shouldn't be encouraging, supporting, or participating in bullying.
well wayne, scott can't stop people if they want to "verbally beat the crap out of him". it's up to people what they say. personally i'll continue to throw insult after insult at the retarded little fuck. however, i don't know why anyone's even bothering to share there opinion with you as your such a cock, that you don't actually bother with what anyone else says, you look at it from one side, and one side alone. you always have done.
perhaps, if robbie is so distressed with the way he is treated here, he should stick to his own blinky website? there he can have complete control over who says what to who. here however, until he grows up and stops all his bitchin' and whining, he'll get the same treatment he always has. simple as.
I'm still going to stick by it's a cop out to say that you muzzled him to protect him. come on now. It wasn't even your idea to do so in the first place. I don't think it was him that was leading this on at all. Actually I think it was the fourteen year old kid that handled himself well. He didn't go on and on like you guys did! Most of what was said, i'm sorry Scott was by you and others and not the professional. I do agree that you are a user of the site and should be able to say how you feel, but so should he without being muzzled. Yu said your share so he as a normal user should have been able to say his. You were having fun at his expense! So be it, don't make excuses for doing so! You are all going on and on about the way he acts, and i don't think it's him that's acting out of hand. It's the users of this site that you would expect to be a bit more mature, than they are acting! I'm not sticking up for him at all. But geesh enough is enough. you were in the wrong by muzzling him, whether your going to admit it or not! What ever happened to we're not your parents or babysitter? by supposedly trying to protect him by muzzling him, your sure acting like it!
Scott for sure wasn't the only one carrying on,, and if you guys want to go at it. then go on a fare playing field. no need to abuse your privileges. I still wuff you Scott. but you know me, I speak my mind. so like me or hate me. it's me! hehehe
It's amusing that it happened, but not right in my oppinion. He's anoying i get that, but we all have oppinions ignore it just like you all tell him to ignore it and maybe he'll go away. The more you react to him the more posts he'll write. Take some of your own advice. I guess I blame both parties and i just think it's a cycle that people let keep happening.
Wayne, you aren't the staff, so it doesn't matter what you think. Further, while I had some sympathy for Rob in the beginning, I no longer do. I appologize for muzzling him, as I admit this particular action was probably not the best way to handle the situation. Just like I don't control the what the other users say, I shouldn't have tried to control Rob, even if I thought it was for his own good. Finally, as you have not addressed some of the other points I've directed toward you Wayne, I have nothing further to say to you on this subject. In fact, I'm not sure I have anything further to say in this topic. I admit muzzling him was not the best way to handle this, have appologized for doing so, and that's all I can do. Now, it's off to do a take home mid term exam...
OK I haven't read all the posts here, but this is crossing the line. Staff always go on about how users should use the ignore feature if something is said about them they don't like, but here, the community leaders wrongly used their powers. It's disgusting guys; feel ashamed.
they had the balls to apologize, that's really all they can do! hehehe scottie dog, how does it feel knowing your girl has balls? heheheh and and and do you still wuff me and my leg? hmm, batts eyes! hehehe
God, Shea, you crack me up. Yes, Scott and I have both apologized in our own way, and that is about all we can do here.
okay, what is done is done, what about thinking of reenforcement in the future instead of keep carrying on with this matter? it have been happen more than 24 hours now, whatever damage have been done, is done and deal with. at the end of the day, it come to the matter between robbo and scott. if robbo aint happy with scott or alicia appoligy, he would deal with it like he does. i guess, we, the outsider should not involve in our own opinion on this.
after this incedent, personally, i do think muzzling behavior should stop in any circumstances. either for reenforcement purposes, or for any other purposes. in any case, staff can use other methods to reenforce robbo behavior such as warnings or other sort.
as we all know, he's just 14days, no matter what matter we use, he won't be more likely take it as reenforcement anyway. and further more muzzling will just bring more unnecessary dramas for this site, instead of doing any good.
on another note, i don't think there's any necessary for other staff to get involve on giving it's own openion or supporting any party. it should be as simple as between Scotty, Robbo, and perhaps one of the admin, if there are alive, instead of the involvement on other staff members.
although being a staff is on a volunteer bases, i guess, there's a need to take respondsibility and deal with such problem in a professional manner.
I have nothing to say on this topic except the following:
Cody, nice analogies.
That is all.
Mike.
Um... thanks mike.
Scott, thanks for coming on and giving your side of the story. It means a lot to a community when its leaders come on and say hey, I messed up. This goes double for the other CL which I don't know very well.
As wayne said, this blameing the victum isn't any good either. Wheather or not Rob brings it on himself is a different debate. I totaly understand why you chose to mussel him. Cyber bullying has taken so many young lives recently, that who knows where Rob's headspace is. However, as eminen said, you can't be his superman. lol.
Hey congrats on the teaching btw. It's probabily good I am not stateside at the moment cause I'd come heckel you in class, and if you tried to mussel me, I'd bite your fingers. Chomp!
After reading your reason for resigning, I hope the admins will follow your suit and give an explanation addressing your comments.
Ciao.
I have to agree with Sister Dawn. This was a bit over the top on the part of the CL's, but posting a board about it was probably not the way to go. It just opens the door for more drama and abuse, which it certainly did.
I know all of this was meant to be a funny joke, and I will admit a lot of it was, but laughing at someone else's expense is not funny. Until this board, I think the professional handled the situation pretty well.
As I think I stated in a previous post on this topic, had I received a message from Scott at the time explaining the reason, I probably wouldn't have created this topic. I considered putting this topic under safe haven, but I was so pissed off at the time that I decided against it in case I started swearing in pure frustration. As I also stated in a previous post, if Scott is ready to talk to me via pqn, pm or even email, i'm ready when he is.
@rob: We can talk when i'm on next, but I have nothing further to say to anyone on this mattter. It's done and over with. I also will not post to this topic any further.
@shea: there is no leg like a SheaLeg, so it's all good. Alicia apparently has balls she hides very well, and that's all I'll say on that as well. LOL. See you all in another topic or something.
Rob it is good that you didn't post this in Safehaven. Those disgusting quicknotes are here for all to see and I suggest that people read them before commenting on the situation. It isn't just the community leaders who messed up. The behaviour of other users towards the Proffessional as highlighted in those quicknotes is unacceptable.
That I agree with. It was actually worse at times.
first of all it's great that the three cls are back. good news all around!!!
For the past few days there has been little drama on here and I've loved it. then i got on here this morning and faound this topic.
professional, i find your screen name interesting. what are you a pro of? rabble rouser? whiner and moaner? maven of missry and misfortune? Save the drama for your mama and shut the heck up!!!!not every one is out to get you. really you aren't that important.
So here we have a 52-year-old, i say 52! who would rather criticise the Proffessional, instead of the people who sent the abusive quicknotes you can read in posts 57, 59 and 60. Have you read them all Turricane? Did you enjoy reading them Turricane?
Once again ladies and gentlemen, she's 52! It says so in her profile.
It's good to see this might be coming to a head - hopefully. If Scott and the professional can sort out their differences then we can put this one to bed. As for you, Senior, who seems to enjoy stirring the drama up even more, the matter of age was discussed in another of the professional's topics - the one in safe haven that I can't be bothered looking for. I subscribe to the opinion that once you come on here, you're fair game and your age doesn't matter. I know some don't think like that though so feel free to disagree with me. Oh what am I saying - of course you'll disagree with me - you disagree with everyone - you're just the disagreeable type.
I wasn't referring to the Proffessional's age in my last post, but to the age of Turricane.
Regardless of the ages of the adults who posted the content in posts 57, 59 and 60, it was wrong and unacceptable. However, people would rather criticise Rob, who did not post content that was equally or more abusive than that was posted against him.
senior,
i deserved that. you are right. i didn't see the messages in question and i am appalled now that I did. I was way out of line and would like to appologize to you and anyone else who I may have offended. nobody owns right especially me.
sinior, did you realize that you are the only one who keep enfersize on the age matter? there's no one here doing that beside you, from the very topic on safe haven to here. why can't you give all of us a break? is that too much to ask?
to be honest, no one will care about anyone age over here. no one can prove that Robbo is 14, but not 41 or 80. same apply to you too, you said you're 20+, who knows you might be 90+ or whatever your age.
this is just a community, everyone have a fair go on what they think and do, that is what "freedom of speach + freedom of expression" mean in this world. of course, as many of us said before, if he's unhappy with his treatement because of his personality crashes with others here, he can either leave the site, or ignore qns, or just, keep doing what he does, which won't getting him anyware. there's a very fine line between joke, abuse, and bully, if you keen, check it out yourself on dictionary.com.
how would one take it, that is depend on how it want to take it to be.
i would say that, either he's 14, 41, 80, or, any one of any age on zone, will be treated the same. that is what it call equal treatement. either you are gay, lesbian, biosexual, or homor sexual, sighted or blind, male or female, you won't have any special treatement just because you are different from other.
Senior, why do we always see you dragging out these issues? once nearly everyone else has moved on, you're still here, still rubbing salt and dumping acid in the healing woonds. What is it with you. A desire to always be right? Some childish need to be the last one to speak on any given issue you have? Some thick headedness that prevents you from truely looking at the issues but rather forces you to push your diluted over done version of what you see as fare and just down our throatss? Doesn't this all not look verry becomeing of a "23" year old? Honestly I would have thought that for someone who fights these battles they'd practice the underlying values in the issues they can't resist preaching about. But then again, this could be some pitiful attempt from a socially unaccepted fool to grab the spotlight and the mic andbabble on in his lunicy until someone kicks him off the stage for the good of all hearing.
You claim to uphold so many morally acceptable values yet you do absolutely nothing to back it up. Rather you paint your self portret as being afalsehood. As a selfserving fool who believes hisopinions to be absolute fact. Look atthe hole picture, not the one little piece you can use to make your delusion reality because until you doo this, you're just as fake as diot soda. Not a good choice in its regular form for the moste athletic of organisms but you hide behind a vail of goodness, purity and all that crap.
Get off your high horse and approach life as a real person.
bla bla bla. I'm not getting into this bullshit.
Post 89: Thank you. That's everything I would have said if I could articulate myself so well.
Post 90: What a waist of a post. lol.
Now please folks, let's just let this thing die along with all the other drama-filled topics the professional has started.
well said James...
Guys, please, let's jus tdrop this crap. We are all young adults, not middle schoolers. Rob, it's best to stop creating board topics like this one so that you won't get bashed like you did on this board topic as well as others.
Has anybody noticed that Rob actually hasn't posted on this topic in a few days? For once, it is not him, but many of us who are keeping this board alive. He created the topic, got the response he wanted from many, and went away. Well, not away, but away from this board. Every new post leaves room for another, including this one.
Oh hell no! I myself do not use or read public qn's. But muzzling is totally unnecessary. What happened to the good old ignore link? How hard is it to hit ignore? That is very uncalled for no matter how annoying someone is; if they annoy or bother you, you hit ignore. That is going way too far, no matter how long it lasts.
to post 96, I absolutely agree. If someone did that to me, I'd report it to the admin, regardless of whether a cl did it or not.
And Jessica, very good point, allthough I haven't read the intire topic.
Stop posting on this damn topic. Everything's over with!
It really cracks me up when people post on a topic to tell everyone to stop posting on a topic. I heart irony.